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These are unsolicited
comments from people who have used NS Basic/Palm. The
most recent comments are at the end of the file.
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"By the way, I demonstrated my application with the
Palm 3e to my clients today. It communicates with a
external recorder which downloads data to Palm via the
serial port, saves the data to the Palm Database, draws
a graph of the result. The Palm is taken away from the
recorder and then you download this data at a later
stage to the PC. I was able to do this with NsBasic
to put this application together in 4 working days.
Pretty good" -- Mike Cotton, South Africa
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"You have done a super job with NS Basic. As a VB programmer
I find NS Basic very straight forward to pick-up. Much
of the code that I have used in my current project has
been copy/pasted from an old VB3 project. I look forward
to further releases.
I have created my first Palm app and this is really
cool! We'll be making tools for HVAC (Heating, Ventilating
and Air Conditioning) engineers and field technicians.
We offer similar app for Windows but many customers
are asking for the same things on the Palm. Nobody want
to carry around a notebook any more!" -- Jim Judge
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"I was able to create something that was functional
as well as useful in less than 2 hours. Good stuff."
-- David Bowden
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"I installed NSBasic/Palm in English Windows and it
runs well. I can develop my applications quickly. It
is a great product." -- Lai Yiu Lam, Hong Kong
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"My 1st app has been in the field for over a month,
and has been 100% reliable. I've finished the Palm part
of my 2nd application, and have been buried up to about
3 feet over my head in some old, nasty code written
by another individual in Access 95, who mainly used
wizards, or so it would appear from the code, which
I need to modify for my 2nd application to interface
with. I love NS Basic... it reminds me of the bad old
days when we were banging out code on the HP 2000's
- had to make it lean and mean. Keep up the good work"
-- Doug Kruze
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"My first program was developed less than one day after
I installed NS BASIC. I have found NS BASIC/Palm to
be an incredibly easy to use and powerful development
tool, and recommend it highly. -- Kent Willyard
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"it is pretty neat to be able to toss together a hello
world style app in a couple minutes with one line of
code and a button! " -- Joel A. Foner
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"Thank you! Having a lot of fun so far! Very nice product.
I've been waiting a LOOONG time for something like this!."
-- Michael Taylor
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"What started out as just an off hand suggestion, has
come to fruition in a few short months, about 3 months
ahead of schedule from my original target date - thanks
to the ease of programing with your fine product, and
the great support from you. I would (and have) recommended
your product to anyone who needs a good, rugged platform
to write applications for the Palm." -- Douglas J. Kruse
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"Just installed my NS Basic the other day, and can
I say IT ROCKS! Not only can you use BASIC syntax, I
had a test APP running on my Palm in less than an hour!
Thanks guys!" -- Tom Streiff
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"Just wanted to send a note to let you know I'm a happy
customer with NSBasic/palm. It started out kinda disappointing,
but found the fault was with the way I handled some
data checking, reworked my code and working just fine
now and am very pleased with the product, keep up the
good work....Danny (maker of Books of the Bible for
PalmOS)" -- Danny H. Newpor
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"I'm having no problem so far putting together a very
usable prescription writing program for physicians...development's
going faster than I expected, thanks to your amazing
IDE!" -- Joseph Fishkin, MD
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"Well, I finished my first NSBasic app. I wrote a program
that helps me in my job as a bush pilot. I place the
Departure and Destination Ids and the program looks
up the info in a database and computes the heading and
distance. The estimated times for waypoints and arrival
are calculated in 2 time zones so that I can give my
radio reports without having to do the mental math.
I can also compute the maximum weight that I can take
into and out of a strip and even compute how much to
charge for passengers and cargo. It has made my life
so much easier. All this is not to brag on my work because
I'm sure that another programmer could look at it and
improve it or even belittle my attempts. I am writing
to tell you that NSBasic does scratch an itch. It isn't
VB, but maybe after you pump millions into it it will
be! The fact is that it has provided me with a tool
that has made my job easier and safer. It didn't require
a masters degree to figure out just a little spare time
and a willingness to experiment and ask dumb questions.
There will always be those that will tell you what you
aren't, but let me say I appreciate the work you have
put into your product. Is it perfect? Apparently not,
but it is a useful tool that has potential. I won't
be giving up on it and look forward to future versions."
-- Glenn Grubb, Indonesia
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"I had a email discussion with you some time ago about
implementing a fast search capability on a large database
using NSBasic. Well, its working now!. My application
is for a Acronym Finder program that quickly searches
through about 2500 database entries to show the meaning
of the acronym. And it was all done with NSbasic! I'm
very happy. " -- Werner Terreblanche, South Africa
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| "By the way, NS Basic/Palm
is outstanding! I am charging right ahead and making great
progress on projects that I always wanted to do on the
Palm, but never had the time or desire to do in the standard
Palm development environments (can you say "steep learning
curve!"). Great work!" -- Terry Davis Nortel Networks
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"Thank you for your information. I got NSBASIC on another
way now and have used it since for 3 small programs.
The learning curve goes quickly up, as I have programmed
with Basic for nearly 20 years already. Until now I
like your "language" very much and will try to overtake
my Win and EPOC programs to the palm platform now" --
H.P.Friedli M.D. Switzerland
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"We are getting ready to release a product next week(?)
called CoinGrade for sale commercially that was done
with nsbasic. If you are not a coin collector it will
be a pretty boring application. It is an interface for
accessing a database that has grading standards for
all US coins ever minted since the late 1700's. The
database has over 1000 records in it with some very
long text fields. I am contacting this group because
up until today our current pool of beta testers had
not reported any problems.
I will add a plug for NSBasic. NSBasic is a great tool.
It was good enough for us to decide to use it instead
of codewarrior. If we were doing our app in codewarrior
we would still be coding. I appreciate the good work
that has gone into NSBasic and hope to see additional
features and a little more speed added with time. Good
job to all at NS Basic Corp." -- Brian Westfall
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"I've used your app for appx 2 hours and I can tell
you already you won't be issuing me a refund!!! I'm
impressed. I've programmed in VB for a couple of years,
and the migration to your language was extremely smooth."
-- Scott McDanie
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"I wrote my first app last night and it was great!
It is just a small program to aide in engineering calculations.
It was very easy to do, great product!" -- Bal Soora
Sedona Networks
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"I am using NsBasic for about a week.... after about
20 years without programming by myself ( my last project
was on Forth, and before mainly macro assembler on 6502!).
I can confirm that the re-learning curve is very fast
as I have now a full working little app ( something
to change the palm to a diagnosticdevice for HW-Raid
controllers in Unix-World (would be the same on any
OS I guess)). Had a lot of troubles, but with easy work
around, i'll test the 1.08 and then go back to you if
i found again some suggestions. Thanks for your well
designed and well fitted for some purposes ( at least
mine ..) product." -- Fran?ois Bergman France
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"First of all i would like to say how wonderful NSBasic
is. Having had a 5 year break from coding i was looking
for a great IDE and easy Language. NSBasic has delivered.
I have had the product for 3 days and have already written
a usable program!" -- Edward Green
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Over theChristmas weekend I took the plunge and created
my first application using NS Basic for Palm. Instead
of a boring old "Hello World" I decided to do something
useful. I downloaded the corporate phone directory off
of the enterprise database and incorporated the data
into a phone book application. I constructed a custom
index and now am able to access any of the 5000 + entries
(which include name, dept, extension and mailstop) within
a reasonable amount of time on my lowly Palm III (2mb
version). I showed it to others at work and they loved
it so much it will be rolled out to the entire company.
All my supervisors are really happy with it. They couldn't
believe that it was possible until I loaded the program
on their Palm! -- Kristofer H. Cruz
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By the way, with you corrections, I was able to set
up a program which communicates with a 4th Dimension
database via the serial port. I did this in about a
half an hour. This is a great program and it will be
a lot of fun to work with. -- Randy Kaempen
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Wow, another cool program. Thats one thing thats so
nice for the palm is that you can develop (almost)anything
with NSB. I developed a hand held computer a few years
ago based on the HP48G motherboard and it was very nice
to progam (OOP). But NSB really makes it fun to program
the Palm. My program is a diagnostic tool for physicians
to differentiate pseudoseizures from epilepsy. If you
want to give it a whirl you can download it here: http://palmtronix.iwarp.com
download BrainSCAN. -- Sim Jaggernauth
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| I am happy with Nsbasic. I am a Basic maniac,
fanatic. We have planned varied commercial applications
with good result, applications with laser sensors, particularment.
Congratulations, NsBasic is a jewel. -- Miguel Vera Superbi |
| Hi, I received my serial number yesterday,
and I've deployed my first two applications today, and
I have to say that I'm very impressed with your product.
-- Omar Aguirre |
| I am an intermediate level VB6 programmer
and have been using NSBasic to program my new Visor Platinum
for about a week. I am very impressed with the product,
documentation and support info. In a week I have gotten
a pretty sophisticated application up and running...would
still be trying to find the right include files in C!
-- Rick Muething |
| By the way, although it thought that you
know about 'PalmOS Programing contest' in Japan, I won
a prize by NS Basic application. It seems that several
persons had also won a prize by NS Basic application.
I'm thankful for NS Basic which is easy to use. How nice
and smart! -- mizuno-ami |
| we make an excellents programs using NS
Basic wiht Bar code. -- Jorge Cabrera |
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I purchased NSBasic way back (ver. 1) and started playing
with it. I had very little programming background, I
had taught myself Visual Basic, as a hobby, when VB
5.0 was released.
I'm employed as a Special Agent with the Georgia Bureau
of Investigation and work as a full-time Bomb Technician.
When I purchased NSB v. 1.0 we had just issued Palm
IIIxe's to each member of squad. I wanted to write a
program for the Palm that we could use in our line of
work that would consolidate numerous "cheat-sheets"
and "Step-by-Step" guides in a simple to use Palm program.
I started hacking away and soon had a Palm program which
repurposes a printed book titled "On-Scene Commander's
Guide to Chemical and Biological Responses". I released
the program, free, through the National Domestic Preparedness
Office, they wrote the book, in early January, 2001.
After that I started working on a Palm program for
use by Bomb Technicians. I'm proud to say that in less
than 2 months from releasing my "Bomb Stuff II" program,
complete with a registration requirement which locks
the program when it detects a different UserName, I
have sold nearly 50 registered versions at $10.00 each.
The program is currently being used by Bomb Technicians
across the US and I'm getting several requests for it
from Techs working at the Olympics in Salt Lake.
I'm sorry I couldn't enter it in the latest contest,
but the program contains detailed information on procedures
Bomb Techs use to defeat explosive devices and I wouldn't
want to put you guys in a position of having that information.
Since 9/11 I have received numerous requests for the
On-Scene Guide program from First Responders all over
the country.
Anyway, I just wanted to say thank you for providing
the tool to do this and have a Palm program available
for First Responders and Bomb Technicians when its needed
the most. I don't get to help out much on the Newsgroup
since I'm not as good at this programming thing as Mike,
Doug and several others, but I lurk there every day
and appreciate what NSB is doing and has done since
version 1.0. Take Care and keep up the good work. --
Keith Axtell
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| The software rocks. In just two days I've
completed the radio frequency calculator our engineers
need. They are all excited about having this tool, and
NSBasic made my department shine! Thanks again for a terrific
product. -- Don |
| I recently downloaded a demo version of
NSBasic and within a few hours I was able to put together
a prototype of a program that my girlfriend wanted to
help her track the foodgroups of the meals that she eats
throughout the day. The development environment is very
intuitive, solidly built, and is a true implementation
of Basic for the Palm. I had found this solution after
spending many hours researching the most appropriate C/C++
tools for developing Palm apps, and was pleasantly surprised
at how quickly the Basic approach gave me visible results.
-- Martin |
| First let me say that I downloaded the
NS basics for Palm demo and found NS Basic Excellent as
a learning tool. I have built my first app in three days
without any prior programming background. My app contains
Current Time and date, forms, buttons, scrolling and flashing
intro etc. -- Victor |
| I have written a program in NSBasic that
is supporting two people full time. I started selling
it in December and have already made more than $10,000.
(honest, but I do have to pay my salesmen). It is fun.
-- Lonnie |
| I've been very happy with NSBasic - it
couldn't be easier to use, and I very quickly developed
the configuration and diagnostics utilities which communicate
with our products. -- Mark |
| My new application is a PALM software to
read all sort of data out of the automobiles on-board
computers, data is acquired vis serial port, NSBASIC is
working just great!!!!!. -- Jaime |
| I am an extreme novice (and I mean extreme)
and am amazed how quickly I have been able to write a
program. I wrote a program to aid eye docs fit contact
lenses that correct for astigmatism. I would have never
tackled the job had I not found NS Basic. -- Gerald Dill |
| Incidentally I am impressed with your product
and have used it to develop several programs for teaching
Spanish language. Works great -- Wally |
| Just wanted to say how pleased
I am with NSbasic. I purchased it middle of last week
and George sent me the reg code the same day. Aftere reading
most of the message board and scouring the help file I
was able to put together a project with both a keyed and
non keyed database. I found the database a little confusing
and this message board cleared up that confusion. I work
for a major corporation with a service force of about
10,000 reps. Many of the reps carry palm devices and the
application I wrote should be very useful for them. Considering
the limitations of the Palm OS NSBasic seems pretty complete.
-- Steve Good |
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I'll add my kudos here, too. I purchased NS BASIC to
create apps mainly for personal use. I've written several
apps that I use often, and am considering "dressing
up" a couple of them for sale or as freeware.
One app I use frequently is a "Who's On Call?" database.
At the office we have three teams of (7) experts. I
use the term 'expert' to indicate the persons' primary
area(s) of knowledge, i.e. I'm the Unix/Systems and
Backup software expert. The teams rotate every week
(Tuesdays at noon) and it's a pain in the (uhhh) neck
to keep track of who's on what team and what team is
on duty this week... along with all their office phone
and pager numbers.
My app handles all of that, and allows for quick, easy
updates (i.e. someone is sick or traded their week with
someone else). It's color-enabled to present the teams
in the appropriate colors (teams are named for colors,
i.e. red team, blue team, etc.). I can also jump to
a future week to see when I'm going to be on-call.
If it weren't for NS BASIC, I would probably be entering
this info manually into a MemoPad note, a speadsheet,
or some other generic database. I wrote the entire application
in about (4) hours. With NS BASIC, it was a breeze.
Very cool!
I do have my own list of "I wish it would do this or
that", but, to date I have been able to program everything
I want - without jumping through too many hoops. And
design and development time has been wonderfully short.
NS BASIC has been great for me. :-) -- Michael Skurka
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| I realized right from the beginning that
I would have to almost start from scratch to successfully
write a civil engineering application for Palm. Now I'm
happy to say, that almost 2 years later, my application
still runs sufficiently well on a Palm III, so when I
hear someone say that NSBasic is slow, I think it must
be how they write code. Not one of my beta users has complained
about speed. In fact, many have commented on how quick
the application is. When asked what I'm using for development
and I tell them NSBasic, they don't believe me. Needless
to say, I'm very happy with NSBasic. Also PDB Converter
has been a lifesaver. Mike, I hope you start selling it
and reap the benefits of your hard work. -- Richard A.
Janushan |
| Im glad to say that after 2 days dealing
with Ns Basic, I already created an application that inserts
and shows data, deal with dates and time and a sort of
other components. I realy enjoyed Ns Basic! -- Luciano
Cebula |
| NSBasic is an awesome product! This morning
I decided to try and start my GPS app having battled to
get started a couple of times. Well, 8 hours later I have
the start of something that may even make me some money!
Event driven Serial comms works perfectly, even with the
continuous stream of data from my Magellan Springboard
module. -- Andrew Pennington |
| I really enjoyed your program, had my project
up and running within 2 evenings after receiving NS Basic.
I've been using my program for work almost on a daily
basis for the last 10 months, that in-itself was worth
the price of the language. -- Rick |
| What a great progam NSBasic is! Wrote my
first program in a couple of hours and many more in the
few weeks I have had it. -- cact613 |
| I bought my first PDA one Saturday, downloaded the demo version of NSBasic
the following Saturday and 2 days later on Monday I was using my first
NSBasic application in the office. Admittedly it was just a little
pregnancy
calculator which had four interdependent date calculations. But all you
had
to do was click on any one of them, click on a few numbers, and the other
three were calculated in as smooth an interface as you could imagine. Now
that is a productive programming environment.
George sent me my registration number already so I am going full bore on a
database app...which will definitely take more than 2 days (:. And I don't
even have the documentation yet! I am a hobbyist intermediate VB 6
programmer with about 25 years of casual programming experience. Great
product. Great service. Well off to Hawaii for 10 days, leave the moose
and
snow behind here in Anchorage. On a plane in two hours.
-- Jim |
| Also, for you information I am about to finish the first project for PCS
done with NS Basic. It was
a nice project for a surgeon to do some patient calculations and seems to
run great on the Tungsten!
As we speak I am bidding another marketing project for a medical
equipment manufacturer which I will
also use NSB if I get the project. I am going to recommend to the other
developers to use NSB for
their RAD needs.
-- Dan Thorngren,
Pen Computer Solutions Inc. |
| NSBASIC is a great OS, making VB apps extremely easy to convert.
It took just a few changes to have a 200K VB running.
-- Jim Drew
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| First, I am very very pleased with NSbasic as a palm software development
tool. We are using it at the University of Utrecht, the Netherlands for
developing a psychological research diary program; and even obtaining
physiological data by the serial port and backup to a SD card is no
problem anymore.
best regards,
-- Jan Houtveen,
University of Utrecht,
The Netherlands
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I wanted to publicly thank you and NSBasic for a great development
tool.
I just completed porting my flagship application from AppForge
and couldn't be happier with the result.
I've already gotten several compliments from customers on the
improved performance.
Working with you and NSBasic has been a great experience and
completely opposite of how I've been treated by AppForge.
You actually go out of your way to make sure your customers are
satisfied.
One of the nice things I found during the course of porting my app
was that NSBasic worked FLAWLESSLY with all my AppForge *.pdb
database files.
The original database files were multiple table MS Access databases
that were converted to AppForge.
I'm finishing up a detailed tutorial for porting from AppForge and
I'll make it availabe to everyone via this forum as a Windows Help
File as soon as it's done.
Thanks Again!
Kind Regards-
-- Tim Markoski
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| I own NSBasic/Palm and have developed several applications with it, all
of which communicate with peripheral instruments via serial port and generate
graphic images of geometric measurements. I like your development system!
--
James K. Hesch, CPE
President, Ziatek, Inc. |
| "...I was able to complete my first application in two days.
Not too bad, if I do say so myself. Either I am better at programming
than I thought (unlikely) or NS Basic makes it pretty easy (more
likely)! Actually the program is a conversion of a Visual Basic program I
wrote a year ago, so I had a lot of the logic already worked out.
The program converts leak rate values using seven different input
options (some english, some metric)." -- Ted Beau |
| We are users of NSBasic and love it. We have written several applications
which take physical inventory, record employee time and upload, via hotsync,
data to a host for further processing.-- John Sherwin, Slice Technologies
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| A few of our commercial applications are written in NSBasic - we love
the quick development time and the features just keep getting better
with each version. Our applications are used in a short-term (2-7
days) rental environment, so the app has to be bulletproof, locked
down and easy to use.
-- Pat Loftus |
| I really enjoy the product, and recommend it to others everytime I get a
chance:. NS Basic for Palm is a great program for developing Palm¨ or
Windows CE¨ applications. I highly recommend it.ÊI use it for Amateur
radio use and applications at work. The GUI is very similar to MS Visual
Basic. -- Joe Lauben, US Military, South Korea |
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NS Basic is a fantastic product!! At the same time, one must also
understand it's BASIC. The original intent of BASIC was to be used as a
teaching language and not a full scale language such as C. Therefore,
one must write within the confines of BASIC without a level of
expectation to go past a teaching language. NSB delivers this with
style and ease.
With this in mind, what NSB does do very well is tie both C and BASIC
together. So for the much more advanced items such as conduits. Write
it in the intended language (C, C++) and tie it together using NSB.
Such a simple solution to such a complex problem.
If I where god for the day. I would have a port of NSB to the linux
platform. Constructing the IDE in such a manor as to use both NSB and
the GCC libaries at the same time. Allowing the programmer to drop a C
function wherever they want. With the concept of clicking Build the
program only once. I would gladly pay double for this ability.
As for the rest...when writting in NS Basic AS INTENDED...this is what
happens.
Stillinger's Dosage Calculator Two --
" I have seen this in person- and it is amazing!!! I am going to be
talking to my bosses about it next week. It is very user-friendly and to
be able to have it in your pocket, or even one at many different
locations without having to have a Plumb (and taking the time to look
all info up) and calculator or computer terminal in every single room-
is a real plus! "
- Charlotte, CVT
PS - That hospital bought $700.00 of my product and $1,500.00 of product
support. Yhea! NS Basic is well worth the price.
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I've been skirting around the edges of NSBasic since the Apple
handheld days... Whenever I tried it, it seemed very awkward since I was
brought up in assembler like languages... I wrote a number of apps in
PocketC, then I switched to Plua. Both are fine environments, but there are
support issues, and in Plua, some major compatibility issues amound various
Palm OSs and even from one version of Plua to the next.
Since I had NSBasic, I decided to give it another try. (I had to rewrite
some 'production' Plua apps that I was using in order to work on the Treo
600, and I just didn't feel like fixing them up, knowing that the next
release of Plua, or then next OS, I'd have to do it again.)
Amazingly enough (probably not to you, but certainly to me...) I wrote my
first app (the one my son is using now) in just a couple of days, spare
time! Given that, given the transparent porting from one OS to another, and
the support from you and your people, I am now a believer.
Tom Clarke
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| I was introduced to NSBasic by [another user] and quickly found it easy
to use a demo version in converting my QuickBasic dos based engineering
calculation programs with the result that I purchased my own copy after
only 1 week of trial use -- Mike Adams |
| "I am really impressed with your programming tools. You
probably don't remember but I told you I wrote a program that had over 200
globals stored in a database and NSBasic handled them. I rewote that program
and now have over 400 Global variables in a database and even old 2.3
handles them well and the programs run great. They are basically snapshots
in time of a great number of statistics. A similar program in VB gave me an
error for too many Public variables and shut down. Great job, and I hope the
desktop is another success." -- Alan Heverl |
| I finished a preliminary version of my app last night and synced it to
my Palm. It is much faster and seems a lot more streamlined than my
Appforge apps. I was able to beam it to a Treo 650 today with no
issues, so that's good. My friend would have needed a separate
Crossfire client for my old Appforge app.
As for the differences between NSBasic for Palm and CE, I am sure I'll
be able to figure it out. The actual code in my app is not that
complex, the hard part is really just developing approximations to the
flight performance charts, which I do with MATLAB and Excel. I think I
will just go ahead and order both versions of NSBasic so I can take
advantage of the $50 off. I'm also excited to see that there are many
other developers that make tools for use in NSBasic.
OK, I've taken enough of your time. You've got a great product, I'm
looking forward to getting lots of use out of it.
Cheers
-- Scot Seaton, US Navy |
| After Trial introduction and several courteous and rapid email replies from Mr. George Henne it is clear that NS is a company well worth involvment. NSBasic for Palm has done everything required so far to replace my existing PC based hardware control applications, potentially eliminating the pc, monitor, keyboard and mouse and electricity bill and footprint.. you get the idea. Looking forward to much work on Palm OS 3 to 5 and outboard hardware development packages." -- David Ribblett |
